Skip to content

change Relativity? Is neutrino tailgating photon?

December 1, 2011

Mohan, mdashf

is causality also relative, if that is so, son you hit a golden pot in physics, “that’s your causality man, that’s your problem. I don’t have a f** with that.” But you travel backwards in time. “Nay thats how you see it, you speed blinded moron, I don’t give a damn about what you think of me. Even if I start late at home, I am gonna kick your ass man, I will reach work early. You will think I started now and came back last nanosecond but that’s because you have a sloppy watch hen hen hen”

Whats happening?

Last night I wrote very long article and its now a featured blog on “physics” at this website. It has happened many times already. But there I tol you that “speed of invariance” {invariance of speed also means speed of invariance, I changed linguistic grammar not the physics} is broken when invariance of propertime is broken. For photons we thought taking clue from its zeromass we can also set the propertime to be zero.

del_tau = (del_x)^2 – (del_t)^2 = 0, for photons.

{{Also check the diagrams here: “The diagrams for Relativity”}}

What is the right hand side? it is a equation for circle where the change in time and change in distance are the coordinates. WE work in units where c=distance_photon_covers/time_photon_takes=1. That is we adjust everything so that this ratio is scaled to 1. Then everything becomes far more easier to compute, analyze, interpret and sth. WE have 1 light second as distance, 1 second as time and the ratio is 1 light, ( = 1 light speed).

Note: when you take ratios the units vanish as they cancel when they are equal this is an attribute of Physics which is different from mathematics, maths oes not come in units or more superficially the name of these units which when equal cancel only on the equation not in the nature of things, they give another unit, all physical quantities come in units which is defined from the variables that go into it’s making. The fact is new physics means discovering a new variable that was defining the attributes of the unit but was escaping the calculations much in the same way units cancel when they are expressed equally. Nature is hideous even if we suppose its language is not.

The photon or light therefore keeps a circle while moving, so that the distance and time are equal, in this unit, 1 light. When they go one over the other, the propertime is no more zero. If you read the gravitational fallout I described in my long article yesterday, I just mentioned at top, energy causes such a fallout hence having nonzero energy means having nonzero propertime. Incase of photons the propertime was defined for photons having zeromass or energy which is called restmass or rest energy but nobody is allowed to go to its rest frame, not even another photon, this is kind of superfluous and no theoretical Physicist has ever explained this (to my knowledge).

SO that is the sacred tomb where noone goes. Well in hinduistic worship only the priest goes inside the tomb. And the priest does not tell you what is there except it tells you there is a God and  He is “abiding” on all of us.

In Physics we can question such a moral, except I am pretty sure noone has come with a good explanation ever. What happens when we go to the rest frame of photons. WE are not allowed to go. OK the blackholes cause an extreme fallout to photon’s speed so that it can not escape. That means speed 1 drops to say 0.01. Large large fallout. Can we then go to it’s rest frame? Well if you are a larger mass you still suffer fallout and your speed is 0.0000001. But it does not answer why we can not go to it’s rest frame.

The problem with the equation of circle above is it is written in 1 frame of reference only, but we can not say the rest frame. Because rest frame is by definition a frame where c=0. that will make the equation a set of indeterminate points? because del_x/del_t = 0 => del_x = 0 and del_t is not. If one of them is not zero then how can you have an equation where the square of these is zero, whether you add or subtract. For one thing you can point out there is a negative sign between distance and time squares but then the complex numbers are good enough to describe these light circles.The point remains, the square is not zero untill they are equal and both of them non-zero. When one of them is nonzero the square is not zero although the ratio could be infinite or zero depending on your test. Ratio could not be infinite because nothing can move at infinite speed even infinitely higher than light, which has never happened. But having a zero speed would be fine, then distance is not covered when time is spent. That would make the speed zero but the circle of light a circle of time only {which is what happens in a blackhole} but propertime is not zero. In a blackhole the propertime is maintained back to zero by a 1light fallout?

But If the propertime is not zero in blackhole, it is not zero for anything else either because there is a fallout howsoever tiny, and this fallout makes things maintained back to 1light. And we do see this by bending of light by Solar gravity. Even our planet earth would cause about 1 cm in 1 lightsecond fallout, to light. which is an angle of 1cm/300000kms = 10(-2)/3*10(8)=(1/3)*10(-10)=0.33*10(-10), a very very small angle. This is essentially what I had obtained for deflection of light by earth at perigee of Galileo-1, {check diagrams, posted recently} 3.3*10^-9 at 1 GHz would give 3.3 mm = .33 cm which is also why you see 3.92 mm fallout for Galileo-1, essentially infinitely away from perigee. The slight changes come from actual trajectory etc, that is, exactly what path you take in the configuration of the earth and the greater-cosmos-suburbs. For light it will still be less than  3.3 mm because the 1 cm is an approximation of 9 mm, 1st of all, plus, the fallout decreases with separation, light would  experience these fallout really fast but not really more or really less. That is the difference between space and time. You can not say Relativity equated space to time, may be it “equated” but they are not the same. There is still differences, in speed of light, with actual speed of light units, even if c=1, it is a ratio where space sits on top because it likes that position. Time on the other hand takes the pleasure from below, not a gravitational below but a mathematical notation. Nobody has ever changed that notation, not even Einstein. The fallout for light as I had seen in that diagram was in the 2.25 region. SO now we know it is 2.25 mm at infinite distance. Starting from about surface of earth where it was ~3.3 mm it has due to lessening of earth’s torment come to a region where it is still deflecting by earth’s gravity by 2.25 mm but not zero, zero will be when it is still infinitely infinitely away, but you know how asymptotes go. Then it will meet effect of mars, of sun, Jupiter, stars, galaxies and so on. It is lost in the cosmos like we are lost on our planet. Einstein made light a blinded person. You thought neon light is cool, but it can’t see much to your surprise, it is lost, thats still news from 1920s. Holaback.

Now back to del_tau = (del_x)^2 – (del_t)^2 = 0.

1. If there is gravity there is a fallout in this equation {in general if there is energy there is a fallout}

SO You can say propertime(energy) even for light. Light speed invariance means this was considered a linear function, always zero, but nobody cared to ask or reply, why? There is “light=hope” that this is a different function in nature.

2. Once the propertime is zero in one frame the Lorentz transformations can still make this zero in all frames. That’s suave, it has been made like that. Lorentz transformation were thought out to deal only to bring  the relativity of etherspace not eg of relativity of causality. Causality itself might be relative, and photons might like us, itself not equipped to see the greater causality or greater reality of neutrinos. The causality in nature is preserved to satisfy our intelligence because thats all that we can make sense of. We do not make more sense so we should not talk about it? But the Physics community is more aware of the causality absoluteness or invariance in Lorentz transformation equations. But one must note that it is not the Lorentz transfromation of the special relativity but point 1 must remind us that Causality invariance is also true for effects of gravity which being only one form energy it must be generalized to all forms of energy.

To my knowledge noone has ever generalized such a condition although we believe that such is true. That is my point, investigate all fractions of energy and all terms to see if we are missing something. Either way of OPERA anomaly we may be seeing a great achievement to make and propertime may be redefined and readjusted to zero for massless particles.

One more point I would like to make is that the photon mass is not exactly zero and neutrino mass although quite far above photons is not so on a “pretext of scale”. That is, while neutrino may only be 9 order smaller than a proton and 18 orders above a photon, in the scale of things, as we see today the 18 orders above photon may actually come to rescue the photon theory or may not, nobody has studied this to great detail. eg the propertime and energy function that one may construct may suitably show that 60 nanosec early arrival of neutrinos was expected from a more generalized theory of Relativity if we followed our intuition and the line that had been carved out for us by the ginats. They did not work towards self glory even though they were scoffing and gasping in glory, they constructed a theory that was valid enough but made ways simpler enough that the invalidity would also be investigated with as much resposnibility/

Thanks for reading


A beautiful evening I must open up to the outside area of my house … The first thing I did is wrote this blg for you when I wole up this afternoon.

Hellow world.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: